Thursday, September 25, 2025

A Response To Agent131711’s Dinosaur Fraud Claim

 


While there has been a lot of fakery and hoaxing that has taken place within the scientific community, in order for dinosaurs to be exposed as a proven fraud it would have to be proven that the fossils discovered and assembled in their current forms were nothing but several different bones collected from different locations and the only way to prove that for certain would be to find out where abouts the fossils of each dinosaur discovery were located; whether they were found in a completed state or if the skeletons we see displayed in museums were compiled from bones found in different locations and in different depths of the ground.
 
Agent 131711, in his Chemtrails substack publication does to his credit explain how paleontological frauds can and do take place [1] and a number of purported prehistoric discoveries have been proven frauds, most notably the Piltdown man which was an alleged missing link between man and ape but which turned out to be a compilation of human ape bones thrown together and stained to make them appear old [2]
 
Archeaoraptor is also another proven hoax, purported to be a transitional form between dinosaurs and birds but it turned out that it was nothing more than bones from a bird and a small dinosaur thrown together [3]

An article from New Scientist admits that fakery within the field of paleontology is more common than most people realize, even going back to the late 19th century:

 
 
 
Many early palaeontologists saw nothing wrong with adding a missing bone or
two. Both the American Museum of Natural History and the Carnegie Museum in
Pittsburgh acquired fossil skeletons of Apatosaurus with skulls from
different dinosaurs in the 1880s. [4]
 
 
 
 
But the problem with forged fossils is especially prevalent with alleged fossil finds from China:
 
 
 
The problems start with the Chinese peasants who dig up most of the bird
fossils. They quickly learned that they could make a killing from “complete”
fossils. Fossils often split along the plane of the bones, giving them two sides
of a single animal, known as a part and counterpart. If they’re missing the
right leg, “they’ll cut out the counterpart of the left leg and make it into a
right leg,” says Larry Martin of the University of Kansas.
 
Some composites are even good enough to fool the professionals. Luis Chiappe
of the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County recalls one specimen that
aroused his suspicions. “I wasn’t sure what was wrong with it,” he says. But
careful measurement showed that one leg was longer than the other. And only when
he examined it closely did he find the mortar that had glued two slabs together.
“On the surface you really couldn’t see that,” says Chiappe. “At the moment,”
says Martin, “I don’t trust any of these specimens until I see the X rays.”
These reveal joints or voids within the rock. [5]
 
 
 
And sharing a personal experience of my own, when I was attending high school, I remember watching a NOVA program regarding the discovery of the famed alleged missing link known as “Lucy” In that particular program, it was admitted that the various bones which would later be compiled into Lucy were found miles apart from each other and at different depths of the ground.  Furthermore regarding one of Lucy’s hip bones, a scientist was featured reshaping the hip bone to make it look more human.  That in and of itself was enough to convince me that this “Lucy” never existed and that it was either the result of irresponsible paleontology at best or a deliberate elaborate deception at worst.
 
But what Agent131711 fails to do is to offer any definitive proof or concrete evidence that dinosaurs, generally speaking, are frauds but if he would do that and provide evidence that his readers can investigate, then his claims of dinosaurs being frauds would be more easily believed but no such evidence has ever come forth from even the Young Earth Creation community which widely believes that dinosaurs, for the most part, were in fact creatures that actually existed and alongside mankind, but which are labeled as dragons instead of dinosaurs (a little more on that later)
 
But as to the extent of the fakery and hoaxing within the paleontological field apart from the few cited examples is not known.  The reason why some Christians resort to declaring dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures as frauds is because they have not been able to explain their existence when confronted with them but “dinosaurs” and other prehistoric creatures do not pose the challenge to the authority of scripture as evolutionists would have hoped and as some Christians have feared.  After all, virtually every dinosaur skeleton display and those of other prehistoric animals such as the saber tooth cat, mammoth, and giant ground sloth shows them to be distinct animals and not missing links or transitional forms and as far as the purported missing links are concerned, each one has either been a proven fraud, based upon a few scraps of bone that could belong to any creature, or upon further study, has turned out to not be a missing link or transitional form at all but just another animal with fully formed features.
 
But if dinosaurs and the displays of other prehistoric animals could ever be exposed as frauds, as the Agent131711 claims, it would no doubt destroy all credibility of Darwinism in the minds of many as well as the credibility of the institutions and scientists who have championed the philosophy, and the way that the world looks at natural history and the history of the universe would by no means ever be the same again, but even if they are authentic, that does not necessarily make Darwinism to be credible; there is already a massive amount of evidence that vindicates the authority and trustworthiness of scripture and which thoroughly debunks evolution, even without falsifying the previous existence of dinosaurs and other extinct animals.
 
Evolutionists have failed to demonstrate how life could have come into existence by way of unthinking and unplanning randomness and time.
 
They have failed to explain why there is a lack of transitional forms in the fossil record and what they have claimed to be transitional forms, as mentioned earlier, and which make up less than a percent of all fossil discoveries, have either turned out to be elaborate hoaxes, scraps of bones belonging to other animals, or just another non-transitional animal.
 
They also cannot explain why there are fossils which supposedly formed slowly over a long period of time are found in places and conditions which would suggest rapid burial, nor can they really explain how it is that blood cells and other organic matter have been found preserved in fossils that were supposed to be millions of years old and there are a massive amount of fossil discoveries that suggest rapid burial and formation rather than slow gradual processes.
 
Their claims that the geologic formations that we behold presently being formed over a gradual period of time never take into account the catastrophic conditions that accelerate their formation (the eruption of Mt. St. Helens a case in point)
 
They have also failed to demonstrate how everything that has ever existed and is currently existing today was produced from single celled organism.  In order for one thing to evolve from another, especially if that which has evolved is more advanced and of a more complex nature than that from which it evolved (i.e. cells to man or rats to horses) that requires an increase of information and a production of information that was not present before.  We know that there can be decreases in genetic information, duplication of information, and even recombination of information, but there can never be an increase in information which is the production of information not already present.
 
From a letter combination of CTAG you can get CTA, TA, GA, A, G, or T (decrease in information) or CTTAG, CCTTAAGG, (duplication of information already present) and you can even get CTGA, TAGC, ATGC (different recombinations) but what you cannot get from CTAG is WKRPINCINCINNATI and that is what biological evolution requires in order to transpire.  It doesn’t happen but that is what it would have taken for men to have evolved from single-celled organisms and for single-celled organisms to arise from non-living matter.
 
The dating methods that evolutionists have relied on to prove the universe to be billions of years old have been based on unprovable assumptions, self-sabotaging formulas, and which have been proven untrustworthy.
 
And what evolutionists also cannot explain is why mankind is set apart from all other forms of life in so many ways and in ways that biology cannot explain as biology cannot explain such as the range of emotions that we experience, our innovative skills, the concepts of good and evil, right and wrong, liberty and tyranny, justice and injustice, a conscience, imagination, purpose, spirituality, the sophistication of our societal structure, and the differences between the various civilizations, societies, and cultures in existence.  Only theology is best able to explain those things about us.
 
But when confronted with the existence of prehistoric animals, one need only come to the logical conclusion that when God created the earth that He created the dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures on the same day as mankind and other creatures presently living alongside us and just because there are certain animals not presently in existence alongside us today, that doesn’t mean they were not coexisting with us in at some point in our history and of course if God did create dinosaurs around the same time as He created man, then neither they nor any other creature deemed prehistoric could ever properly be called prehistoric animals as they would have existed at the beginning of human history.
 
Natural and documented history as well as paleontology and anthropology are filled with indisputable examples of animals that had once lived alongside mankind but are now extinct such as the woolly mammoth, saber-tooth cat, cave bear, the giant ground sloth, and more recently, animals such as the Auroch, Dodo bird, the giant Moa bird (largest flightless bird known to man) which once inhabited New Zealand, the Tasmanian wolf or Thylacine, and of course we have accounts of oddities such the Chimera, Griffin, Hydra, and Manticore which we do not see in existence today as well as the universal accounts of dragons which creationists contest dinosaurs to resemble best and contend that the dragon legends and myths may very well have inspired with encounters with what we would call dinosaurs and if that is the case, then what we call dinosaurs were actually the dragons of old that we have read about and which continue to inspire the imagination to this day; the dragons of fiction and myth that we are familiar with simply being embellishments of creatures that had once existed but now no longer do.
 
Even the Bible speaks of dragons and other creatures that had once lived but now no longer do; most notably creatures called Leviathan and Behemoth which we find written in the book of Job (Job 40-41) whose descriptions and attributes are unlike anything presently living today, as well as unicorns, (Num. 23:22, 24:8, Deut. 33:17, Job 39:9-10, Ps. 22:21, 29:6, 92:10, Is. 34:7) fiery flying serpents, (Is. 14:29, 30:6) cockatrices, (Is. 14:29, 30:6) satyrs, (Is. 13:21, 34:14) and an unidentified animal called an ossifrage (Lev. 11:13, Deut. 14:12)  Interestingly enough, even the prophet Jeremiah alludes to the existence of dragons that were large enough to devour men. (Jer. 51:34)
 
Why it is that certain animals that once lived alongside mankind now no longer do can only be due to a number of factors; changes in environmental conditions that made it difficult for some animals to thrive, the evil and carelessness of men which have led to the extermination of some animals, and the deliberate rendering off of others that were either a menace or perceived to be a threat but one thing is for certain: Without God, nothing was made that was made (Jn. 1:1) and there is not a single thing that the Lord ever created in vain or without reason but all things were created by Him, for Him, and for His glory and that includes creatures both extinct and presently living and the reason why certain plants and animals have been rendered extinct is simply the consequence of the fallen state this world is presently in and its present condition is not the condition that God intended it to be, for when God had first created this world, He created it to be a place of life and not death, of peace and not violence in which there existed a perfect peace and harmony between God, man, and all of creation but a fateful and consequential act of disobedience had disrupted that harmony that had once existed and which brought the world into the fallen state that it is in now and that fateful act had to do with a fruit from a certain tree called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  When God had created man, He had initially given him dominion over the entire earth and over all living things and there was nothing withheld from him except one thing and it was that certain fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and it was warned of man that in the day that they ate thereof they would surely die (Gen. 2:16-17, 3:3) but when Adam being the first man whom God created and Eve being the first woman whom God created were did not heed the warning and ate of that forbidden fruit the peace, goodness, and harmony that was once in the world was disrupted for as soon as Adam and Eve had eaten of that forbidden fruit, sin entered into them and through sin which entered into them death came into the world for the sentence of death that was pronounced upon Adam and Eve for that transgression (Gen. 3:19) did not stop with them but was passed down to all of us, because we all descend from them, (Rom. 5:12) for sin is not merely confined to an outward act or even wrongly and evil spoken words, it begins from within because it is an inward corruption that influences not only speech and actions, but also defiles our thoughts, darkens our hearts, corrupts our motives, and poisons our attitudes and because sin is the corrupted condition of our inward human nature that produces within us things that are contrary to what God created us to be and because of this corrupted condition, we all sin and as a consequence, we all die (Rom. 6:23) just as Adam and Eve did but the consequences of sin have not been kept confined to just man alone, but have, by way of a curse, been extended to all of creation which is why the creation groans and travails in pain to this day (Rom. 8:19-22) which is why the earth is filled with famines, sickness, disease, death, decay, misery, evil, suffering, hardship, cataclysms, grief, pain, and sorrow of every sort and severity but worst of all, our sin has made us to be estranged from our Creator for that which is sinless and incorruptible cannot join itself to that which is filled with corruption and sin and when we take time to examine ourselves before the Lord God Almighty and not just our acts and even the words we speak, but also every thought, motive, and attitude of our hearts, it is only then we begin to understand how we all fall short of the glory of God which (Rom. 3:23) which is moral perfection and why we are all in need of redemption by which also comes that inward transformation that makes us no longer a part of the figurative swamp though we still be in it and in His love and in His mercy, God has provided us redemption on our behalf in His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, who came to earth as a man to offer Himself up to death on our behalf and did so by His death upon the cross on which His blood was shed and by the death of Him in whom there is no sin (2 Cor. 5:21) was the demanded penalty for sin satisfied and mercy granted and after having offered Himself up as that needed perfect and unblemished sacrifice, (Heb. 7:26-27) He rose from the grave so that we may be made justified in Him by our faith in Him for the forgiveness of sins and the salvation of our souls (Rom. 4:25) from what would otherwise be an unimaginably agonizing terrifying, fearful, judgment and punishment filled with an unrelenting torment from which there is no relief day or night for that is what must be done with all sin and with those who remain in their sins, but those who call upon the name of Christ for the forgiveness of sins are saved from that judgment (Rom. 10:13) and are assured a place in Heaven and in the new and better world to come and with the forgiveness of sins comes the inward transformation of our souls (2 Cor. 5:17) and reconciliation to God from whom our sins had once separated us (2 Cor. 5:18) and it is that transformation that causes us to no longer desire to follow after selfish and worldly pursuits but after those things that pertain to the Kingdom of Heaven,
to no longer take pleasure in those things that are evil and displeasing in the sight of the Lord, but in that which is good, right, and pleasing in His sight,
to no longer desire to walk in the lies of this present world, but only in the truth that comes from Christ Almighty, (Jn. 14:6)
no longer placing our hopes in the things of this present world, but looking forward to that new and better world to come, (Rev. 21-22)
to no longer rely on worldly resources, men, or even our own power, abilities, skills, and wisdom for our needs and provision but upon God who is able to meet all of our needs, (Mt. 6:25-33) recognizing that the resources of this world and even the people He brings into our lives are but instruments and vessels through which God meets our needs and that the skills, power, knowledge, and wisdom by which we might acquire our provision are provided and instilled in us by God,
to no longer fear what men can do to us, but rather fearing the God before whom we will have to one day give an account for how we lived our lives, (Mt. 10:28)
to no longer look to corruptible institutions within our society for direction and order in our lives but to God who, by His written Word has given us laws and precepts to be applied to our lives and which serve to produce and maintain an ordered life, and who, by His Holy Spirit which comes to dwell within us upon repentance, establishes in our lives a course and direction in our lives to pursue for His glory,
to no longer seek our own glory but the glory of God,
to no longer rally behind corruptible men, but instead behind the incorruptible God in Heaven bearing in mind that those men and women God raises up for our edification are but instruments and servants of His for that respective purpose to which He has called them,
to no longer seek to align ourselves with the things of darkness but only with the things of the light,
to no longer trust in the wisdom of the world but only on the wisdom and knowledge that comes from above, nor depend on corruptible earthly authorities to swiftly administer justice, but only in the power of God to deliver us from evil.
 
 
And just as our souls are made clean from sin, so one day also will we be liberated from bodily death when our bodies are transformed from that which is corruptible into that which is incorruptible (1 Cor. 15:51-55, 1 Thess. 4:13-18) for in that which is incorruptible dwells no sin and where no sin is, death is not.  And finally, creation itself will be delivered from the curse that came upon it because of sin when it is made anew into a creation in which there is no sin, no death, no curse, no decay, no evil, no pain, no grief, no misery, no sorrow, no hardship, nor any suffering of any kind but only peace, joy, harmony, and happiness before the Lord God Almighty. (Rev. 21-22)
 
If you have not done so already and feel the call to repentance, desire to be a part of a new and better world to come, and to live a life filled with purpose and meaning, then I urge you reader to call upon the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins.  It is but a simple prayer of sincere faith-filled repentance away:
 
 
"Lord Jesus I need you.
 
 
I realize that I am a sinner
who has fallen short of the glory of God
and that my goodness falls short
of your standard of Moral perfection.
 
Please forgive me of all of my sins.
Come into my heart and into my life
to be the Savior and Lord of my life.
Make me into the servant and follower
that you want me to be.
In your name Lord Jesus, I pray.
 
 
Amen."
 
 
Know that God is not concerned with the words that you use to call upon Him forgiveness, but with the attitude of your heart and if you have, with all sincerity, have asked Christ to forgive you of your sins, placing your trust in Him only for your salvation and in nothing else, then your sins are forgiven and your place in Heaven is certain.
 
 
 
End notes:
 
 
 
1.  Agent131711, “Snake Oil & The Rise of the Dinosaurs,” Agent 131711’s Substack, September 6, 2025, Substack
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/snake-oil-and-the-rise-of-the-dinosaurs
 
2. “Piltman Man mystery may be solved,” News 24, South Africa, December 13, 2012
https://www.news24.com/Green/News/Piltman-Man-mystery-may-be-solved-20121212
 
3.  Jeff Hecht, “Piltdown bird,” New Scientist, Magazine issue 2223 published 29 January 2000
https://web.archive.org/web/20160413101524/https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg16522232-200-piltdown-bird/
 
4.  Jeff Hect, “F is for fake,” New Scientist, Magazine issue 2226 published 19 February 2000
https://web.archive.org/web/20160413045052/https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg16522261-700-f-is-for-fake/
 
5.  Ibid.
 
 
 
Scripture references
 
 
 
1.  Job 40-41
 
2.  Numbers 23:22, 24:8
 
3.  Deuteronomy 33:17
 
4.  Job 39:9-10
 
5.  Psalms 22:21, 29:6, 92:10
 
6.  Isaiah 34:7
 
7.  Isaiah 14:29, 30:6
 
8.  Isaiah 13:21, 34:14
 
9.  Leviticus 11:13, Deuteronomy 14:12
 
10.  Jeremiah 51:34
 
11.  Genesis 2:16-17, 3:3
 
12.  Genesis 3:19
 
13.  Romans 5:12
 
14.  Romans 6:23
 
15.  Romans 8:19-22
 
16.  Romans 3:23
 
17.  2 Corinthians 5:21
 
18.  Hebrews 7:26-27
 
19.  Romans 4:25
 
20.  Romans 10:13
 
21.  2 Corinthians 5:17
 
22.  2 Corinthians 5:18
 
23.  John 14:6
 
24.  Revelation 21-22
 
25.  Matthew 6:25-33
 
26.  Matthew 10:28
 
27.  1 Corinthians 15:51-55, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18


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